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The Walking Dead second season

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Looks sexy

Wonder if they're gonna reveal what happened to the racist dude...seems like they forgot about him

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I watched the series premier and then someone told me the season ended with them escaping from the CDC's version of the Hatch and I immediately stopped caring.

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But season 1 was a lot shorter. If they would have had a longer season, they probably wouldn't have ended it there. Season 2 I believe is actually going to be a lot longer. I never read the comics, but they are following the story right? Either way, this is one of my favorite series on television.

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I never read the comics, but they are following the story right?

Not really. I'm glad it doesn't because it wouldn't be very entertaining if you knew everything that was going to happen, but...I don't know. It just seems incredibly stupid at times.

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Not really. I'm glad it doesn't because it wouldn't be very entertaining if you knew everything that was going to happen, but...I don't know. It just seems incredibly stupid at times.

But there are zombies. Of course it's stupid.

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But there are zombies. Of course it's stupid.

Har har. I mean stupid in the "exploding CDC lab" sense. I'm no expert, but I feel like that would accomplish the complete opposite of disease control. I understand the show is about the walking dead but that doesn't mean you have to abandon logic entirely.

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The Walking dead is great but for some reason i was kinda dissapointed after i watched the first season because i thought it would be so much better. Most of the interesting stuff happened in the first few episodes and after that it went downwards, i hope season 2 will be better :(

I believe they also mentioned that they'll have more scenes in the wild/nature in season 2 and those scenes were the least enjoyable for me, season 1 also didn't show anything other than just those main characters. I would have loved to see more, more about the world in the movie and more about how people tried to fight off the zombies and all that stuff but no, all you get to see is 10 people atleast who are sitting at some camp fire talking about not so very interesting stuff, i understand they have a budget but cmon lol. Although the first episodes of where you saw all those bodies and how he escaped the hospital and found the black guy and child and all that stuff, was pretty cool.

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Har har. I mean stupid in the "exploding CDC lab" sense. I'm no expert, but I feel like that would accomplish the complete opposite of disease control. I understand the show is about the walking dead but that doesn't mean you have to abandon logic entirely.

(Spoilers)

The CDC lab exploded because it ran out of power to safely contain all the viruses and diseases they have stored in there, so rather then leaving the lab extremely vulnerable and a threat to everyone around it, the lab has a fail-safe to self-destruct. Actual CDC labs might have some sort of fail-safe similar to this as well. I don't know how this is stupid, makes sense to me.

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I don't know how this is stupid, makes sense to me.

I was going to explain but I think that sentence already proved my point.

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But you would think a localized charge in the biohazard storage would do the trick. Am I wrong? That is, assuming CDC buildings are anything like that at all, which isn't necessarily the case. I thought it was entertaining, but most zombie fiction is going to be good ultra-violence at best. Rarely is it thought-provoking or particularly well thought out. Even the shit I used to write wasn't necessarily super duper high brow all the time although I actively sought to put in as much realism as possible.

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You know what else would do the trick? Lysol and bleach. The CDC goes to great lengths to prevent germs from leaking outside so I doubt their best plan is to launch ebola shrapnel into the surrounding area every time the power goes out. I could understand an automated process that dumps everything into an incinerator once the backup emergency generators kick in, but a sub-nuclear explosion? Come on.

I'm not harping on it because of some petty shit like "How is that zombie moaning without lungs?" - this is something that would be legitimately stupid in any genre. They could've put this scenario in Rainbow Six: Atlanta Thunder and I would've called bullshit on it. It doesn't get a pass based on the fact that most zombie fiction writers suck.

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AMC didn't think that The Walking Dead would take off as it did, and so they had a very low budget and only planned for 5 episodes.

This season, they have a higher budget and fan-base and I believe it's going to be a longer, better season.

I personally thought that the first season was very nice. It was different, and refreshing. I enjoyed the CDC Lab bit.

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You know what else would do the trick? Lysol and bleach. The CDC goes to great lengths to prevent germs from leaking outside so I doubt their best plan is to launch ebola shrapnel into the surrounding area every time the power goes out. I could understand an automated process that dumps everything into an incinerator once the backup emergency generators kick in, but a sub-nuclear explosion? Come on.

I'm not harping on it because of some petty shit like "How is that zombie moaning without lungs?" - this is something that would be legitimately stupid in any genre. They could've put this scenario in Rainbow Six: Atlanta Thunder and I would've called bullshit on it. It doesn't get a pass based on the fact that most zombie fiction writers suck.

"Every time the power goes out." The Walking Dead doesn't specify how long it's been since the power ran out, but it's probably been at least a month based on the city being mostly dead. Sub-nuclear explosion? You should probably watch the episode instead of trying to figure out the entire show based on what someone said. As for using an explosive rather than a large incinerator, it's cheaper and probably more effective to light the whole place on fire.

Max Brooks.

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You know what else would do the trick? Lysol and bleach. The CDC goes to great lengths to prevent germs from leaking outside so I doubt their best plan is to launch ebola shrapnel into the surrounding area every time the power goes out. I could understand an automated process that dumps everything into an incinerator once the backup emergency generators kick in, but a sub-nuclear explosion? Come on.

I'm not harping on it because of some petty shit like "How is that zombie moaning without lungs?" - this is something that would be legitimately stupid in any genre. They could've put this scenario in Rainbow Six: Atlanta Thunder and I would've called bullshit on it. It doesn't get a pass based on the fact that most zombie fiction writers suck.

The thermobaric charges would kill everything quite effectively - cells simply cannot withstand temperatures to that extreme. Extremophiles exist, but they are archaea or bacteria and their environments don't exceed two hundred Celsius. A thermobaric charge, on the other hand, would most certainly exceed any possible habitable environment for any life. Ebola shrapnel wouldn't be a concern. It would be overkill and the potential problems with having such a large charge in a building relatively close to a street and other buildings (though it had a small perimeter in the show) are numerous and obvious. It was kind of stupid - there's no denying that. It's not Resident Evil stupid, but the concept suffered a sort of poor and hyperbolic treatment.

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It was a bit silly, but I took it with a grain of salt as I got what they were going for and getting at, they just didn't do it that well. I let it slide since the idea still got across pretty well.

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I still believe the charge would have to be placed in such a way as to ensure the samples were destroyed before the building suffered any structural damage. Once again, I haven't watched the episode, but common sense would lead me to believe these samples are kept in cold storage. If those specimens are all contained in one room, wouldn't it make more sense to just have an incinerator in that one particular room rather than risk even a .001% chance of infecting someone with equine chlamydia? Even if you have the "oh shit - leave nothing but a crater" panic button there should still be other options. Then again, it is a government building.

Also, this just raises the question of how they survived the thermobaric charge as I'm sure they had a dramatic last minute escape in their Winnebago. It is a tv show, after all.

Objection, speculation! Sustained.

I'm an expert in thermodynamics and cost-effective demolition solutions.

Max Brooks.

Yeah, that's one of those shit writers I was talking about. Should I spit out a random name now? Dwight D. Eisenhower.

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dude everyone knows the CDC is ran by interdimensional guardians who place buildings over dimensional rips allowing them to both travel back to their dimension but gather resources and such through there as well...and should something catastrophic happens well then you gotta blow the hole man...YOU GOT TO...you don't wanna see what comes outta the rift if it's not being monitored.

i mean shit dudes...i thought everyone knew about the Containment and Distribution Centers.

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Large amounts of complaining

Yeah, that's one of those shit writers I was talking about. Should I spit out a random name now? Dwight D. Eisenhower.

I feel sorry for you if you think Max Brooks is a bad writer....

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I feel sorry for you if you think Max Brooks is a bad writer....

I didn't say he was a bad writer. The guy who wrote Dead Space: Martyr is a bad writer. I said Max Brooks is a shit writer.

Here's a question for anyone that feels like answering it: When you were reading the so-called "Zombie Survival Guide" and you got to the paragraph where Max Brooks said the safest place to be in a zombie apocalypse was in the INNER-CITY why did you continue reading?

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Here's a question for anyone that feels like answering it: When you were reading the so-called "Zombie Survival Guide" and you got to the paragraph where Max Brooks said the safest place to be in a zombie apocalypse was in the INNER-CITY why did you continue reading?

meh, i have the book next to me right now and i basically re-typed what he explained

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its at page 86, GENERAL RULES :

Buildings in poorer, inner-city neighborhouds tend to be more secure than others. Their reliance on high fences, razor wire, barred windows, and other anti-crime features make them readily defensible. Buildings in middle or high income areas tend to emphasize aethethics. What rich city council wants an eyesore in its neighbourhood? Instead of ugly, even tacky, safesty features, these affluent people rely more heavily on law enforcement and private security( forces of proven unrealiability). For those reasons, and if the situation permits, head away from the suburbs and toward the innercity. Avoid ''accidents waiting to happen.'' Many industrial structures of the sort commonly found in inner-city or '' downtown '' areas house explosive or flamable materials. They also may contain complicated machinery such as power generators and environmental regulars, mechanisms that require constant supervision. Put those two together, and disaster is gauranteed. The Khotan nuclear power plant is only one extreme example. More numerous if less dramatic incidents ussualy occur with all Class 2 and 3 outbreaks. Do not seek refuge in or near indistrual sites, fual storage facilities, airports or any other place identified as high-risk.

when choosing a refuge, consider these questions carefully:

1. Is there a wall,fence, or any other phsyical perimeter?

2. How many potentional entrances/exists are there?

3. Can the people in your party simultaneously defend each fence and exit?

4. Is there a secondary defensive position, multiple floors, or an attic?

5. Can the building be secured?

6. Is there a potential escape route?

7. What is the supply situation?

8. Is there a water line?

9. If needed, are weapons or tool avaible?

10. Are materials avaible to reinforce the entrances?

11. What about means of communication : phone, radio, internet, etc?

12. Given all these factors, how long could you or your group survive an extended siege?

Make sure to consider all these questionswhen choosing where to make your stand. Resist the urge to dash into the nearest building. Remember, no matter how desperate the situation seems, time spent thinking clearly is never time wasted.

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I read almost all of the book and i also found some things that i read that i didn't agree on and he definatly has another thought about zombies than we do, but still, this seems to make sense to me.

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time spent thinking clearly is never time wasted.

This must be the "humor" portion of the book. The best way to avoid infection is to head into an area with a higher populace (the inner-city), on foot (because cars are bad) bringing your AK47 (the world's greatest gun) with 50 rounds of ammunition (the recommended amount). If you somehow manage to survive, I assume you're supposed to take the author's earlier advice and attempt to destroy the concrete/metal stairs with a common fire ax.

Brilliant. I can't wait for Chapter 10: Putting Out Fire With Gasoline.

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haha

Honestly, it wouldn't write stuff like that either but there are lots of other things in the book that does make sense :D

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This must be the "humor" portion of the book. The best way to avoid infection is to head into an area with a higher populace (the inner-city), on foot (because cars are bad) bringing your AK47 (the world's greatest gun) with 50 rounds of ammunition (the recommended amount). If you somehow manage to survive, I assume you're supposed to take the author's earlier advice and attempt to destroy the concrete/metal stairs with a common fire ax.

Brilliant. I can't wait for Chapter 10: Putting Out Fire With Gasoline.

When the fuck did he say any of that? Also, he said if you can't destroy a staircase, then put a metal sheet or a door on it so it makes a slanted surface and makes it difficult for zombies to climb. World War Z was a brilliant book, and so was Zombie Survival Guide, that's why both books are bestsellers.

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World War Z was a brilliant book, and so was Zombie Survival Guide, that's why both books are bestsellers.

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