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Moody

A good, realistic sniper game

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[vent=start] So I checked out Sniper: Ghost Warrior to disappointing reviews. And I started wondering, are there actually any realistic, fun to play, stealth based sniper games out there? Out of all the games that have been made, you would think someone would realize that there is a good community based around stealth games. So far most games claiming to be "sniper" games include very standard FPS close range fighting. My ideal sniper game:

1. Ballistics/wind effects on bullets

2. Penetration values for different snipers (not completely necessary)

3. Good stealth gameplay (which means well programmed AI that can spot/hear you on a realistic level, and react decently to the discovery of an enemy sniper)

4. Being able to prone (very important to me)

5. Decent enough graphics (call me spoiled, but for a game like this, nice graphics are important to enhancing immersion into the environment for me)

6. Realistic, but not clunky and hard to handle

7. Ragdoll physics (just to put ArmAII out of the picture).

8. A large environment would be ideal, so you can pick your approach and find a spot you feel comfortable in

9. Controlled breathing (which means that there IS weapon sway in the game)

These points rule out ArmAII and Sniper Elite. They are both great games, but not what I'm looking for in the next gen sniper game. Far Cry 2 has some pretty good sniper gameplay, but it lacked ballistics, weapon sway, and sometimes the AI's range of sight led to situations where I would be standing out in the open within clear view, and they won't see me.

I'm fairly sure no game that follows most of my guidelines exists at the moment. This is simply me venting at the lack of a really good sniper game, even though what is needed to make a great sniper game isn't too hard to figure out. I think a mod for Crysis would probably be the most efficient way of making a great sniper game. [/vent]

edit: added/changed a few things

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The Hunter, web based ultra realistic hunting simulation.

Other than that, Sniper Elite, which is very old still exists.

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Sniper: Ghost Warrior was actually a very very fun game in my opinion, I too was iffy with all the bad reviews. But I gave it a chance and bought it, I love it. There are a couple points where you play as an assault team instead of a sniper, but you have to stick to cover or you're dead meat.

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Just buy a rifle and go shooting

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Just buy a rifle and go shooting

That like telling people that like realistic games to go join the Army. Rifles are expensive. Bullets are expensive. It is also a skill that can get very difficult when you start getting into the very long distances.

I enjoy semi realistic video games because they aren't actually real, they only strive to simulate reality, while keeping the "fun" aspect of video games in tact.

I just wish there was a realistic video game that was dedicated to stealth and sniping.

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That like telling people that like realistic games to go join the Army. Rifles are expensive. Bullets are expensive. It is also a skill that can get very difficult when you start getting into the very long distances.

Shooting isn't difficult, getting the sights right is the difficult part, once you got that right you're good to go.

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Give us loads of money and I am sure we could provide something that will fit your requirements.

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Shooting isn't difficult, getting the sights right is the difficult part, once you got that right you're good to go.

I wouldn't even say that is a hard thing to do. Get a big piece of white paper and some binoculars [or go check after every shot] and you should be able to get zeroed in 5-10 shots.

Anyway, I can't think of any good 'sniping' games that haven't already been mentioned, but there is a fun sniping level in Hitman 2: Silent Assassin [which is just a cool ass game anyway].

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I wouldn't even say that is a hard thing to do. Get a big piece of white paper and some binoculars [or go check after every shot] and you should be able to get zeroed in 5-10 shots.

It takes about 3-4 mags with 4 rounds in each mag.

Trust me, i did try to get the perfect sights on my AG-3. I got it close enough. :)

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Just buy a rifle and go shooting

Then find a clock tower and you should be good. Better yet just join the military and train to be a marksman.

If that is not your taste I agree that "Sniper Elite" is a good choice or even "ARMA 2" if you are looking for something more graphically advanced (Though being a war simulator it involves quite a bit of walking and waiting), it is pretty accurate from what i can tell having never personally shot a military grade sniper rifle.

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That like telling people that like realistic games to go join the Army.

Not really

Rifles are expensive. Bullets are expensive.

Not really

It is also a skill that can get very difficult...

Yeah kind of like almost anything on the planet

when you start getting into the very long distances.

Yeah, and that is what's called the "challenging" part. Also known as "fun", and "excitement". Sometimes referred to as "thrilling" or even "testing".

You know, the kind of shit people play video games for.

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For a person still in High School with no job, a gun and bullets are hella expensive. I went shooting with my Grandpa and Uncles earlier this summer. I shot my Grandpa's scoped 30 caliber rifle, and every single bullet cost slightly over a dollar. It cost $20 for a pack of around 15 rounds (Which is not too expensive unless you go shooting every weekend). I also understand your argument that challenges are usually fun and exciting. My point is that it is much more expensive to actually shoot a gun than to simply get a video game.

Video games are a cheaper investment, and while it isn't quite as fun and exciting is shooting a real gun, I'm not going to deny that they can be extremely fun. Another great thing about video games is that they are not real. I can sneak up on enemies, and make amazing shots that would take years of experience of rifle shooting to get.

Perhaps my thread's purpose wasn't quite clear enough. I was simply frustrated that I couldn't seem to find any sniper games that generally fit into what I was hoping for, so I asked the community if they know of any. I know my points were fairly "needy", they were just guidelines for the type of game I was looking for. I also think that the fact the I was frustrated obviously showed in my post.

But Maxx, it seems like you are trying to make me angry by posting short, non-explanatory replies. I like to consider myself a fairly rational guy, so if you have something to say, please explain it to me, and don't make it sound like you think I'm an idiot, because that is the feeling I'm getting from your posts.

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I did not realize you are in high school, to which I suppose a rifle and ammunition would be considered expensive. No I do not consider you an idiot, I'm just high.

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Hitman series aren't 100% sniping, but they are dedicated for stealth (you can go guns blazing, but it's not always THAT fun as sneaking and eliminating objectives without single spare gunshot).

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This is now a hitman thread.

I'm cool with that.

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Red Orchestra: Heroes of Stalingrad has ballistics modeling and weapon sway and bullet penetration and adjustable sights and other goodies but it won't come out till 2011

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Ill have to see if I can get my hands on the latest Hitman game.

@Riley: Yeah, I can't wait until that game is released. Especially because of all the mods popping up for it.

Also, I settled for Crysis. It isn't perfect, but the stealth and stalking elements of it truly make the game awesome.

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I sadfaced when I realized the "latest hitman game" came out 4 years ago.

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