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Pretty much nailed it on the head. I prefer interesting chord progressions and beautiful melodies (ie: real music) to low, rhythmic, noise created by people that wear all black because they're too cool and brutal to do anything else (anything under this category will be coined as "gay", "pussy", "conformist", or in some circumstances, "statist") while claiming to be non conformist. Even metal's most talented instrumentalists are horribly uncreative and bland as actual musicians. One last edit to say that metal has been sold out into nothing but a spectacle for shock value and rebellious children since the late seventies and that it is now just a contest to see who can be more brootalz.

All that aside, I still enjoy some metal.

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Most Modern Metal bores me...they're is the occasional exception but it is mostly just noise, and now unfortunately DEATHCORE witch really couldn't suck more unless it was called SUCKMYDICKCORE but that's unoriginal. I like Metal, but there are way better things. Like the progressive art rock of Tool or (to a lesser extent) Muse, or Electronica with elements of rock such as Celldweller or (In Silico era) Pendulum or Hard Alternative like Chevelle, (some)311, Zico Chain or Sick Puppies

I mostly stick to the medium ground of hard rock or grunge rock until metal finally grows up or people stop listening to animemo bands (Paramore, Panic at The Disco, My Chemical Romance and of course Tokio Hotel)

And there's always classic stuff...Rainbow, Deep Purple, Journey stuff like that

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I'm with you Shicken on the comments about Tool, Celldweller, Muse and electronica.

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I really dig some metal bands. Not really in a cerebral way, but just because they do loud good. I'm mostly into the whole post-rock/metal diddely-o. Tool, Isis, Red Sparrows, all that faggotry.

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Pretty much nailed it on the head. I prefer interesting chord progressions and beautiful melodies (ie: real music) to low, rhythmic, noise created by people that wear all black because they're too cool and brutal to do anything else (anything under this category will be coined as "gay", "pussy", "conformist", or in some circumstances, "statist") while claiming to be non conformist. Even metal's most talented instrumentalists are horribly uncreative and bland as actual musicians. One last edit to say that metal has been sold out into nothing but a spectacle for shock value and rebellious children since the late seventies and that it is now just a contest to see who can be more brootalz.

All that aside, I still enjoy some metal.

You fail at flame-baiting me. I have this thing called restraint, and despite the volumes of stupidity that pour from your fingers, I won't address that post directly.

Needless to say, I no longer feel the need to defend metal. I have realized that people hate it - and most of the people who hate it fucking suck anyway, and I wouldn't want them tainting what I like. Most people who hate metal and believe all the stereotypes are dogmatic, inane, sheepish, woefully ignorant silly pseudo-intellectual tools who would do more damage in the scene than outside. There are only a few things I love in this world - classical, jazz, and metal being among them - and I will no longer actively defend them from without. I'm much better off purging the idiots from within the scene than trying to "correct" every dumb fuck who can't understand true music.

I think the very fact that nu metal, metalcore and deathcore and other consumerist morons wrapped in a thin veil attempt so hard to appeal to true metallers and cry for acceptance speaks volumes of their lack of intellect, tact, and appreciation for the art.

So if you say metal is pure garbage, that it's noise created without talent, and that it's all screaming and crying and whining, well that's because it is (in your mind). I'm out of the business of trying to make people 'understand' something they never will.

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I think what puts most people off metal are death metal bands (not the good bands that actually try and incorporate a visceral sound into with dark lyrics to force you to emote or to actually relate to the darkest times in your life) but the throwaway (new myspace band every week) ones who try way too fucking hard to aim for a shock factor that doesn't exist. Bands that usually have stupidly violent names like Bleeding Anus, Chainsaw Rape or Belching Vagina and who sing about shit like muder or cannibalism. They're so laughably bad and trying so hard to be vulgar that you can't help but wonder if they actually bother writing songs or just piss on Vulgar Dictionary and make a song with the words that aren't wet.

Granted there are some exceptions in the modern repotoire of shit but most of it is just someone gargling into a microphone for 3 minutes. As a metal lover I can say that listening to a mob of instrument abusers is hardly music...it's not even metal. and Job For a Cowboy or Children of Bodom can fuck off and die

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Lets try this again you naive twat. Imagine metal without the hair, without the make up, without the whole culture of death, destruction, anarchy, brutality, anti status quo etc etc. As if it were just another one of the main music genres with no defining political statements, no strings attached. What is left musically? Where's the melody? Where's the emotion, the beauty, the whole human touch? Where's the color? Where's the fucking variety? Not all of us listen to music to be part of a counter culture or to make a political statement, you dip, some of us would rather enjoy music for what it is. What the fuck are you? A robot? Are you so genetically superior to the rest of us that even the music you listen to has to have a logical backing for you to enjoy it (or consider it "real music")? Funny thing about classical, jazz, and metal, is that all three have a number of musicians that would rather play things that are "musically correct" rather than things that are musically genius enough to be emotionally inspiring or awe striking.

And before you try to call anyone here pseudo-intellectual, you are by far the most naive intellectual that I've ever come across. From your bitterness and the way that you try far too hard to be seen as this big cold, calculating, unfeeling, think tank of limitless logic and reason, I can tell that you are so fucking far away from reality that your entire social life probably consists of only grumbling at people when you absolutely have to. Go the fuck outside and get some common sense. You're like the kind of dumbass that thinks that just because he can justify things in his own mind, he's right.

And yeah, some fucking pseudo intellectual teenager just made it personal.

Oh and way to create a thread specifically made to evoke reactions like mine, and then not explain yourself "anymore" even though you find a way to bitch about religion and statism in every unrelated thread. In b4 "trolled"

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I think what puts most people off metal are death metal bands (not the good bands that actually try and incorporate a visceral sound into with dark lyrics to force you to emote or to actually relate to the darkest times in your life) but the throwaway (new myspace band every week) ones who try way too fucking hard to aim for a shock factor that doesn't exist. Bands that usually have stupidly violent names like Bleeding Anus, Chainsaw Rape or Belching Vagina and who sing about shit like muder or cannibalism. They're so laughably bad and trying so hard to be vulgar that you can't help but wonder if they actually bother writing songs or just piss on Vulgar Dictionary and make a song with the words that aren't wet.

Granted there are some exceptions in the modern repotoire of shit but most of it is just someone gargling into a microphone for 3 minutes. As a metal lover I can say that listening to a mob of instrument abusers is hardly music...it's not even metal. and Job For a Cowboy or Children of Bodom can fuck off and die

I don't think most people like black/death/doom metal at all - they don't like the vocals, they don't like the instrumentals - and even you have said that you don't like extreme metal.

Lets try this again you naive twat. Imagine metal without the hair, without the make up, without the whole culture of death, destruction, anarchy, brutality, anti status quo etc etc. As if it were just another one of the main music genres with no defining political statements, no strings attached. What is left musically? Where's the melody? Where's the emotion, the beauty, the whole human touch? Where's the color? Where's the fucking variety? Not all of us listen to music to be part of a counter culture or to make a political statement, you dip, some of us would rather enjoy music for what it is. What the fuck are you? A robot? Are you so genetically superior to the rest of us that even the music you listen to has to have a logical backing for you to enjoy it (or consider it "real music")? Funny thing about classical, jazz, and metal, is that all three have a number of musicians that would rather play things that are "musically correct" rather than things that are musically genius enough to be emotionally inspiring or awe striking.

And before you try to call anyone here pseudo-intellectual, you are by far the most naive intellectual that I've ever come across. From your bitterness and the way that you try far too hard to be seen as this big cold, calculating, unfeeling, think tank of limitless logic and reason, I can tell that you are so fucking far away from reality that your entire social life probably consists of only grumbling at people when you absolutely have to. Go the fuck outside and get some common sense. You're like the kind of dumbass that thinks that just because he can justify things in his own mind, he's right.

And yeah, some fucking pseudo intellectual teenager just made it personal.

Oh and way to create a thread specifically made to evoke reactions like mine, and then not explain yourself "anymore" even though you find a way to bitch about religion and statism in every unrelated thread. In b4 "trolled"

As I said, I won't tell where metal has consonance, dissonance, melody, layering, or texture, because I won't defend it from the likes of you. I won't argue about how emotive metal is or isn't because I don't feel the need to. You seem to forget here that you're judging something subjectively. While I may shit on other genres, I do so mainly in the aspects that aren't musical; the musical criticisms are just piled atop the others. All in all, I have nothing against the neutral person who prefers rap or rock over the genres I like. Because at the end of the day, music is mostly preferential and subjective. Commercial art, however, is hardly art.

And yes, I am the "kind of dumbass" who thinks that consistent reason and sound logic are the only things that matter in thought, not the populist stance or majority opinion. The masses, the majority, have never spurred any real change; all they can do is tag along with the chosen minorities who do cause the change. They will flock to the winning side, but rarely will the masses actually participate in some revolution (whether artistic or political) before the winner is already determined. Basically, they don't fucking matter. They could all die tomorrow and my opinions would remain the same.

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Oh and way to create a thread specifically made to evoke reactions like mine, and then not explain yourself "anymore" even though you find a way to bitch about religion and statism in every unrelated thread. In b4 "trolled"

Burn.

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All music sucks and no music sucks. Metal is terrible but metal is the second coming of christ.

We are wrong but we're all right. >:<

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Burn.

Oh yes, I can feel the flames consuming me.

Pro tip, Boozer: I baited you and in the end, you failed. Cry in McDonalds with your consumerist cunt friends.

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I don't really listen to music anymore. I've grown out of it.

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Oh yes, I can feel the flames consuming me.

Pro tip, Boozer: I baited you and in the end, you failed. Cry in McDonalds with your consumerist cunt friends.

Actually I have the satisfied feeling of winning, because I know that I'm right. Try not to have too much fun with all your friends, noobie

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Pro tip, Boozer: I baited you and in the end, you failed.

You started the thread to argue, and then refused to argue. How exactly did booze fail?

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