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Not everyone chooses their lifestyle simply to proclaim themselves better than everyone else.

I don't claim to know why other people don't eat meat...I for one simply don't because I don't think it tastes nice at all...end of really. It doesn't bother me that people eat meat at all. It does bother me when people question the reasons for my vegetarianism or say that it's simply to proclaim I'm better than someone or there is no reason for it whatsoever. Meat does not taste nice IMO. And quoting stuff out of context is awesome <_<

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I eat meat to preserve the environment. Without me, there is nothing to keep the population of cows in check.

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how the fuck is going vegan going too far? i'm aiming to become a vegan myself when spring comes and i find that statement to be a little bit fucking... ridiculous? i'm sorry if you hate people who actually have something to fight for.

I'm not gonna get all angry and stuff. I have a lot to fight for, including people going too far. Animals kill each other, it happens, things die and eat each others corpses. It's the way nature intended, we are just as much animals as everything else in this world, no high or lower. Equal. If other animals eat and kill, then give me a reason why it is wrong for us to kill and eat, and also for tools and weapons. I am against all animal cruelty because animals in the wild don't treat others like that. Only humans have the capacity to think in ways such as cruelty and are the only ones capable of it. I believe that is very wrong. Yet as long as we don't over hunt a certain animal and use all of its body, we are not bad at all.

I really want to here a reason why you believe in being vegan so much.

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fighting for people going too far. i dont think you got anything to fight for... do you even know what im talking about?

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we aren't bad at all? we REALLY aren't bad at all?

"I am against all animal cruelty because animals in the wild don't treat others like that. Only humans have the capacity to think in ways such as cruelty and are the only ones capable of it. I believe that is very wrong."

i have no idea if you're arguing with me or against me. make up your mind. if you're against animal cruelty then quit buying from the industry.

EDIT: heres a good one, what do you have against being vegan? it kinda sounds like you got your tongue twisted up at one point and now you're trying to defend some obscure viewpoint.

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fighting for people going too far. i dont think you got anything to fight for... do you even know what im talking about?

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we aren't bad at all? we REALLY aren't bad at all?

"I am against all animal cruelty because animals in the wild don't treat others like that. Only humans have the capacity to think in ways such as cruelty and are the only ones capable of it. I believe that is very wrong."

i have no idea if you're arguing with me or against me. make up your mind. if you're against animal cruelty then quit buying from the industry.

EDIT: heres a good one, what do you have against being vegan? it kinda sounds like you got your tongue twisted up at one point and now you're trying to defend some obscure viewpoint.

I don't know what your doing. I'm against vegan, and against animal cruelty. Now all those picture are are corpses. The first one definately has signs of animal cruelty but the others are fine. Here's a little fact, to eat something you have to kill it. If your going to kill it there is going to be blood and a body. I've found plenty of dead animals in the wild when hunting that have been just as bad as this.

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I don't know what your doing. I'm against vegan, and against animal cruelty. Now all those picture are are corpses. The first one definately has signs of animal cruelty but the others are fine. Here's a little fact, to eat something you have to kill it. If your going to kill it there is going to be blood and a body. I've found plenty of dead animals in the wild when hunting that have been just as bad as this.

how the FUCK are you against veganism and against animal cruelty? you make zero fucking sense. jesus christ, this ain't going anywhere, im done.

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In those pictures I see jobs. I see good honest American men feeding their families and putting roofs over their heads and getting their kids into college.

If you don't love seeing cows and shit getting chopped up and gutted, then god damn it you're a fucking pinko faggot terrorist.

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In those pictures I see jobs. I see good honest American men feeding their families and putting roofs over their heads and getting their kids into college.

If you don't love seeing cows and shit getting chopped up and gutted, then god damn it you're a fucking pinko faggot terrorist.

LMFAO

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fighting for people going too far. i dont think you got anything to fight for... do you even know what im talking about?

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All of those photos are animals being turned into clothes, not food.

But boy howdy if they were being turned into burgers. I can't wait eat my next burger and wash it down with a cold coke.

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fighting for people going too far. i dont think you got anything to fight for... do you even know what im talking about?

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But they're so cute! I love animal corpses, they just make me hunger for their flesh. Doesn't a pile of muscle tissue and organs make you long for a feast?

we aren't bad at all? we REALLY aren't bad at all?

"I am against all animal cruelty because animals in the wild don't treat others like that. Only humans have the capacity to think in ways such as cruelty and are the only ones capable of it. I believe that is very wrong."

i have no idea if you're arguing with me or against me. make up your mind. if you're against animal cruelty then quit buying from the industry.

EDIT: heres a good one, what do you have against being vegan? it kinda sounds like you got your tongue twisted up at one point and now you're trying to defend some obscure viewpoint.

PETA can use all the shock media they wish to, but I'm quite immune to it. I can stuff my face with assorted snacks while watching videos of decapitations and dismemberment. Things die, and things are killed. It's the way of nature. You will die, I will die, and after we die, we will rot in the soil, our consciousness but a faded memory. Animals - non-human animals, of course - often do kill each other either in very painful ways for sport or nourishment, and the end result is the same: one animal is dead, and it serves as a feast for other organisms, which then have filled bellies for a while. Cattle likely feel as much pain when their throats are slit in meat production facilities as they do when wolves suffocate them, and even less pain in the meat production plants when they are killed with captive bolt guns. The end result is the same, either way; you have one dead cow, and a few other organisms who profit. The only difference is that man uses much more of the carcass, of the miscellaneous products of the cow's life, than do the wolves.

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He's saying that you can still eat animals without directly being cruel to them, you drip.

well hey you dribble, no shit. its the fact that nearly the entire industry revolves around inhumane means to meet an end. that ties into how you, noobbot, are talking about the same pain felt by cows. i just feel its rather unnatural to kill a cow with a fucking bolt gun.

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i just feel its rather unnatural to kill a cow with a fucking bolt gun.

Well then squirt, did aliens give us our intellectual capabilities to create a fucking bolt gun, or did it naturally occur?

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Well then you squirt, did aliens give us our intellectual capabilities to create a fucking bolt gun, or did it naturally occur?

I agree with you commence the apocalypse

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This is why I dont post or make threads anymore. he comes on here to talk about a band he likes and ya'll shit all over him. If you dont like it dont post and fuck off, hows that sound?

Seems to work for me.

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well hey you dribble, no shit. its the fact that nearly the entire industry revolves around inhumane means to meet an end. that ties into how you, noobbot, are talking about the same pain felt by cows. i just feel its rather unnatural to kill a cow with a fucking bolt gun.

its not, just because they die and there's blood doesn't mean it's INHUMANE. What would be the point of torturing an animal before you kill it? None.

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Ya know, Starlight, you back-to-the-lander flower children really tick me off. You want to know why? I'll tell you why.

Back when we first heard this back-to-the-land, say-no-to-technology drek in the 1980s or '90s, the population of "spaceship Earth" was pushing 5 billion plus. The only thing keeping the bloated population fed was advanced technology - wizzer fertilizers, pesticides, genetically engineered nitrogen-fixing grains, hydroponics, and so on and so on. And there you were, Starlight - you or your ideological forbears - preaching "back to the land," and carping about every technological advance that let us squeeze an extra ton of food out of the available arable land, or keep an extra ton from going bad before it hit people's tables. So what happens, Starlight, if we take your drek-mucking suggestion, hm? The available arable land can support a population of maybe a couple of billion without technological intervention, and every family would have to farm, because there would be no way to keep food fresh until it was shipped somewhere else. So what happens to the extra three billion people already born, Starlight? They starve, that's what.

And today? We're in the same soup, only it's not quite as hot. VITAS-3 chopped the population down, that's true, but a drekload of keen and dedicated breeders have been popping kids and filling the world back up. If we took your suggestion today, only a billion people would starve.

Which billion, Starlight? Point them out to me. Make a list. Would your name be on it? The names of your friends, your family? No, of course not.

You wrap yourself up in holier-than-thou rhetoric, but what you really want to be is the Chooser of the Slain.

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Who is Starlight, and what the hell is drek? I get the feeling this was CtrlV'd from somewhere, or you're schizophrenic. Drek is the equivalent of frak I'm assuming.

I guess you could say I'm a "Roddenberry-ist", with the dream of embracing high technology to clean the world and solve our problems, and using efficient technology to live harmonically with nature.

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